Eternacon/2018/Committee Meeting Chat Logs/5-16-2018
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Jennifer Pearl: Lets start the Eternacon meeting [4:05 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: the forms have been submitted to reserve the room and get AV assistance [4:06 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we have not received cofirmation that we have the rooms yet though [4:06 PM]
Astromon: cool [4:06 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: until we have that confirmation and the confirmation on the hotel we cant really do much in the way of registration prep [4:07 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: lets figure out what type of presentations/activities we want [4:08 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: every year we have a fun activity and was hoping we could figure out what that should be [4:08 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: what do you all think about comming up with a list of stuff we would like to see and then posting that asking for presenters vs having people present what they want to without promptig [4:09 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: prompting [4:09 PM]
Astromon: bob for rna apple G and C mostly [4:09 PM]
Jieux: Pie eating contest. [4:10 PM]
LFP6: @Jennifer I see nothing wrong with going both routes [4:10 PM]
Jieux: bobbing for proteins? [4:10 PM]
LFP6: Hehe [4:10 PM]
LFP6: We did Eterna Jepordy the first year [4:11 PM]
Astromon: besides puzzle solving contest (: [4:11 PM]
LFP6: Last couple years its been puzzle solving [4:11 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: those were fun [4:11 PM]
LFP6: Maybe we could do a twist on puzzle solving? [4:11 PM]
LFP6: IDK [4:12 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: waht kind of twist [4:12 PM]
Astromon: twist is good [4:12 PM]
LFP6: I feel like there was something someone mentioned last year… [4:12 PM]
LFP6: Maybe its in slack or a chat archive [4:12 PM]
Astromon: how about a new badge for the winner this year! [4:13 PM]
tomoedachii: ooooh [4:13 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: anywho LFP6 can you compile a list of players who have volunteered to give a presentation so far and what they want to do or is that in the tasks spreedsheet already? [4:14 PM]
Astromon: and 1000 points!!! [4:14 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: new badge would be cool [4:14 PM]
LFP6: I can do that - we didn’t get a ton of details about topics though [4:14 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: even if there are no topics given we can ask them if they want to preent on something we come up with today [4:15 PM]
Astromon: true that jen [4:15 PM]
mgotrik: hey all sorry im late, here now [4:16 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: hi mgotrik [4:16 PM]
Astromon: hey micheal [4:16 PM]
whbob: hi [4:16 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we were just talking about what events we would like to see at eternacon this year [4:16 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: fun stuff and presentations [4:17 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we want o compile a list and ask people to present on one of them [4:17 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Lets discuss presentations first and we can work out the fun activity later [4:17 PM]
mgotrik: kk just read through everything [4:17 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: so what type of presentations do we want to see/ topics [4:18 PM]
Astromon: eterna score , vs eterna change and other data we are unfamilar with [4:19 PM]
Astromon: fold change* [4:19 PM]
Astromon: just to throw something out (: [4:20 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: so a presentation on how fold change works and what seams to be the best and worst of different designs? [4:20 PM]
Jieux: Would like to see a presentation on folding realities of single state puzzles and how well we can design specific shapes from scratch. [4:20 PM]
Astromon: sure, and other data reading on, off all those [4:20 PM]
mgotrik: id bet rhiju would like to give a talk on the big picture views of eterna [4:21 PM]
mgotrik: as in the types of puzzles he hopes to see in the future [4:22 PM]
whbob: yes, global fold change vs fold change etc [4:22 PM]
Astromon: i dunno if omie or eli is in the list but they seem to be the most knowledgable players for this i think [4:22 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: @Jieux that sounds interesting. So something about how well we can desing single state designs form scratch that work on teh first try? [4:22 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Eli is very private and has stated he does not want ot present in the previous years [4:23 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we could ask but I ma guessing he will say no [4:23 PM]
Astromon: oH ok [4:23 PM]
whbob: maybe someone could talk about the mutation generator and how best to use it? [4:25 PM]
Astromon: I presented that last year<< :D [4:25 PM]
Jieux: Feel free to drag out my triple switch guide again, but you have to include the copyright infringing video at the end. [4:26 PM]
Astromon: haha [4:27 PM]
Jieux: or pay for the music synch license in lieu of my travel budget… I’m sure a Led Zep tune for educational purpopses would not be too expensive. [4:27 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: not sure if we could do that but we could ask if you are serious [4:28 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: are you coming this year Jieux? [4:28 PM]
Jieux: It would be fun :) Anyway, have to go pick up my kid from school… I support whatever you think will be fun and educational… doubtful I can make it, but will attend virtually for parts of it I’m sure. [4:29 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: or would you like ot present you tripple swithc guide via the internet [4:29 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: how about presenting your guide remotly [4:29 PM]
Jieux: It’s self contained, I’m not necessary… just hit play :) [4:29 PM]
Jieux: Have to go Jennifer… LFP6… All labcoats and labrats… feel free to send me a PM [4:30 PM]
Jieux: keep it fun! [4:30 PM]
Astromon: seeya Jx [4:31 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: can you send us a link to your guide? [4:31 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: by jieux have a good day [4:31 PM]
Astromon: .giudes [4:31 PM]
Astromon: .guides [4:31 PM]
LinkBot: http://eternawiki.org/wiki/index.php5/Player-Created_Guides [4:31 PM]
LFP6: Would be nice to have him come in person if at all possible [4:31 PM]
LFP6: We keep trying :] [4:32 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: sure would [4:32 PM]
Astromon: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSMMntZEBTLVHpNQkFHZmxZbE0/view [4:32 PM]
Astromon: jen^ jx guide [4:32 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: looksl ike my guides link is broken… [4:32 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Ive been gone a bit so are there any new types of switches that we would like people to tlak about [4:34 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: or maybe more lessons learned from the TB rounds? [4:34 PM]
Astromon: new aptamer per new labs [4:35 PM]
Astromon: spinach, MGA [4:35 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: That would be cool to have people talk about the new aptamers and what they have ntoiced about them [4:35 PM]
Astromon: andrew came up with a great way to solve the hard tb lab [4:36 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: it would be great if Andrew could making it again and present a bit [4:36 PM]
Astromon: i already asked if he would present he said the guide he drew up is all he’s doing w/ it [4:36 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: if this different than last year [4:36 PM]
Astromon: yes its different [4:37 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: so would we be interested in presentin ghtat guide or do we need someone else to present for him [4:37 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: would love for him to present his guide [4:37 PM]
Astromon: https://getsatisfaction.com/eternagame/topics/a-b-c-2-design-for-both-dec-and-inc [4:37 PM]
Astromon: thats it^ [4:38 PM]
Astromon: has pictures and everything [4:38 PM]
Astromon: prob need to get some one else to present it is the feel i got [4:38 PM]
Astromon: i dont quite understand it enough to present myself< [4:39 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Astro can you ask him if it is cool if we have someone else present it for him if he does not want to? [4:40 PM]
Astromon: sure [4:40 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: maybe get a recomendation [4:40 PM]
Astromon: good idea [4:40 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: maybe Rhiju can convince him to come… [4:41 PM]
LFP6: He’s done it once before! [4:42 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: LFP6 can you get ahold of rhiju and ask him if he can try to convince Andrew [4:42 PM]
Astromon: haha [4:43 PM]
LFP6: Will do [4:43 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: great thanks [4:43 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: anyone have any other ideas? [4:44 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: do we want to ask people to tlak about switches in general? [4:44 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: and single state designs? [4:44 PM]
Astromon: did you find anymore data about ED levels jen [4:44 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i have sadly not been able to do anything. As soon as I got back last year I started working on coding up tweaks to the NUPACK side of my software to make an API out of it and then rolled directly into school [4:45 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i have not done a thing [4:46 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: it makes me very sad and I want to squite school because of it [4:46 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: havnt even finished my NUPACK work [4:46 PM]
Astromon: aww its ok some projects take longer than others is all [4:46 PM]
Astromon: you have to do whats most important for you (: [4:47 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: yeah but Eterna is feels more important than school. although once I finish school my pay will increase alot [4:47 PM]
Astromon: I know what you mean, eterna is important to me too [4:48 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: but i hate doing things just for money…makes me feel dirty [4:48 PM]
AndrewKae: Hi Jen and Astro [4:48 PM]
whbob: I’ve never used Nupack, maybe someone could run through it for a presentation? [4:48 PM]
Astromon: you can do good though with some money :D [4:48 PM]
LFP6: I’ve only been able to work half as much as I wanted to on Eterna since I’ve been hired due to school. That will go up by like a factor of 10 this summer :P [4:48 PM]
Astromon: Hi Andre [4:49 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: NUPACK is neccessary if your modeling anyhting over 2 states since Vienna does not support more than 2 states [4:49 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: hi andrew [4:49 PM]
Astromon: aH yes it has many inputs [4:49 PM]
LFP6: I thought it was number of oligos [4:49 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: yes it s the number of oligos [4:50 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: sorry [4:50 PM]
Astromon: the other models cant do those calculations [4:50 PM]
AndrewKae: I sent the form in for eternacon, and I am willing to present [4:50 PM]
LFP6: Sweet [4:50 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: yay!!! [4:50 PM]
Astromon: great! [4:50 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: thanks Andre! [4:50 PM]
AndrewKae: should be better this time, and you aare welcome [4:50 PM]
Astromon: i enjoyed last years and glad you have more findings now to share! [4:51 PM]
Astromon: Ive spent most of my time working those hard puzzles ,the last few years and still know only a fraction of what i need to know< [4:52 PM]
Astromon: so far we have ABC hard puzzles and solving puzzle session [4:53 PM]
Astromon: i wonder if hog would like to present some more things about switches maybe [4:54 PM]
Astromon: I bet TD has a few more presentations in that brain of his :D [4:55 PM]
whbob: they had great presentations [4:56 PM]
Astromon: yup, so did you [4:56 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: ok lets discuss fun events for ainut before we end the meeting [4:57 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: a minute [4:57 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: im trying to get enough computers for 2-4 poeple teams [4:58 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i thik it would be fu if we could have a team event [4:58 PM]
mgotrik: what might be cool would be to have a bunch of mini presentations by players. people could present ideas they have, suggestions, etc.[4:59 PM]
mgotrik: like just 10-15mins [5:00 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: so like a session for anyone to come up and ask questions and see who has the answere [5:00 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: and maybe present little things they have noticed? [5:00 PM]
LFP6: We also typically have a “dev chat” session, if you were referring to that [5:00 PM]
LFP6: Though this does sound a little different [5:01 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i think it is a bit different [5:01 PM]
mgotrik: just if somebody has an idea for a type of puzzle, changes to the UI, etc. [5:02 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we could put it just before break so that if it goes long or short we cna adjust our time accordingly [5:02 PM]
mgotrik: or if they just want to talk about a certain puzzle they made that they find interesting hah [5:02 PM]
mgotrik: i bet some people would be down, just to get a little practice speaking to groups [5:02 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: that sounds like a good idea [5:02 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: a open mic session if you will [5:02 PM]
LFP6: We could expand our final session to be more in that direction perhaps [5:03 PM]
LFP6: It’d probably have some overlap [5:03 PM]
Astromon: sounds good [5:04 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: yeah the first day tends to be knowledge heavy and the 2nd day is more admin stuff [5:04 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: would be goot ot an some knowedge stuff ot the end of the day [5:04 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: so i have got to go back to work [5:05 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: LFP6 can you create the cht log form todays chat [5:06 PM]
LFP6: Yup [5:06 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: ive been taking some notes and have it in the eternacon folder on google drive [5:06 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: basically just cut and paste of ideas [5:06 PM]
LFP6: Great [5:06 PM]
LFP6: Since I’m done with APs I’m really hoping I can fix the Wiki this year [5:06 PM]
LFP6: *this week [5:06 PM]
LFP6: lol [5:06 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: lol [5:07 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: see you all later and happy folding [5:07 PM]
