Eternacon/2018/Committee Meeting Chat Logs/4-18-2018
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Jennifer Pearl: hi eveyone. A reminder that at 1pm PST we will be having a Eternacon 2018 planning meeting. Everyone is invited to participate. [12:32 PM]
Astromon: sounds good Jennifer I’ll be there [12:53 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: hi everyonbe . lets start the eternacon planning metting [1:01 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: there is not a whole lot ot discuss today aso this may be a short meeting.[1:02 PM]
LFP6: Heya [1:02 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: hi LFP6! [1:02 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Astro you there?[1:02 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: lets wait till we get some at least one more person before we start the discussion [1:04 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: anyone online that wants to participate in the Eternacon planning meeting?[1:07 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: While we wait for people to join how many people have filled out the Event survey LFP6? [1:08 PM]
LFP6: Good question, let me go check [1:09 PM]
LFP6: 7 [1:10 PM]
whbob: hi [1:11 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: How long do you think we should leave teh survey up before we set a date?[1:11 PM]
LFP6: So far Aug 11-12 is the best, but that’s a limited audience [1:11 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: hi whbob[1:11 PM]
LFP6: I think that’s a matter of how close we can get before people need to make reservations for air and hotel, facilities need to be reserved, etc [1:12 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: @LFP6 can we put up a banner onteh site adverstising teh survey and the meetings? [1:12 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: thats only 3 months away at the most[1:12 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: maybe we leave the survey up for another week and then make a decision.[1:13 PM]
LFP6: http://prntscr.com/j72i1p[1:13 PM]
LFP6: That’s the most of a response I got when I asked in the dev Slack [1:13 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: ok sounds like me need to get eh theme figured out. Tht was one of the topics for today anyway [1:14 PM]
LFP6: The whole banner system is kinda annoying since we may have multiple things going on at a time [1:14 PM]
Astromon: Hi guys [1:14 PM]
LFP6: Hey Astro [1:14 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: hi astro [1:14 PM]
Astromon: i got held up at the pharmacy :D [1:14 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: maybe we make an argument that we need the banner for this next week and then we can rotate out with the other stuff [1:15 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: ket Rhiju do the other stuff he was tlaking about after that [1:15 PM]
LFP6: I can check if we can do it for a week or two [1:15 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: He wants a date set and we cant do that unless more people fil out survey adn we need to have pressence[1:15 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i think the most we can afford to wait to schedule a date is 1 to 2 weeks. 2 weeks is pushing it if we want to do august [1:16 PM]
Astromon: i filled mine out any time was good for me< [1:16 PM]
Astromon: maybe send out another newsfeed about it[1:17 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i havnt done mine yet. anytime is good for me as well [1:17 PM]
LFP6: I still need to finish working out my schedule[1:17 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: @astro that sounds like a good idea. Weekly reminders [1:18 PM]
LFP6: I’d prefer not cluttering the newsfeed though, that could get a bit much [1:18 PM]
Astromon: can use the same one [1:18 PM]
Astromon: oH [1:18 PM]
Astromon: gotto push what we need though [1:18 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: a banner woudl be the least intrusive then[1:19 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i agree with AStro [1:19 PM]
whbob: the chat used to post reminders about dev meetings[1:19 PM]
Astromon: oH yes [1:20 PM]
LFP6: Geez, that’s been a while hasn’t it [1:20 PM]
Astromon: good idea whabob[1:20 PM]
Astromon: haha yup [1:20 PM]
Astromon: that with a link to the forms would be good[1:21 PM]
LFP6: I might be able to throw in a carousel item on the lab block on the front page [1:21 PM]
LFP6: Will need to look into it though [1:21 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: that is a good idea. LFP6 can we start doing th chat thing again [1:21 PM]
LFP6: Not sure what people would think, I can raise it to the dev team at least [1:22 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we just need something to bring constant sawrnes to peopel about the survey and the planning meetings [1:22 PM]
LFP6: Mhm [1:23 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: as long as we can get one place where it is constant or at least recurring is good [1:23 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: can you present the various ideas we have had [1:23 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: @lpf6 [1:23 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: and lets go with teh best one aka the one the devs agree to [1:23 PM]
LFP6: Mhm [1:24 PM]
LFP6: I’ve already brought up the banner, so we’ll see where that goes first [1:24 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: that brings us to the theme [1:24 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: We need to figure out a theme today [1:24 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Here something from Rhiju that LFP6 shared with me. [1:25 PM]
Astromon: what did rihju say about that [1:25 PM]
Astromon: oH [1:25 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: f we’re going to be morefuture focused, players may want to hear about upcoming science, like sensor challenges that mightbe important for cancer; or to hear more about open-TB_like disease signatures [1:25 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: but i personally like hearing player ideas [1:25 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: so perhaps we could have an eternacon focused on switches – what algorithms would let us solve swithces as well as nando’s nemo? what other switch problems are upcoming? (both the cancer & other infectious disease signatures might fa[1:26 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: under that theme) [1:26 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: another thing is player papers & patents [1:26 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: thats it [1:26 PM]
LFP6: I’d also like to consider Eterna 4 [1:27 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: So having a theme about switches is a recommendation from Rhiju[1:27 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we could maybe have it about both [1:27 PM]
LFP6: Also there’s some new scientific techniques coming from our new postdoc [1:27 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: switches, eterna 4 and the new scientific process sound liuke things that are in the works for the future [1:28 PM]
Astromon: cool [1:28 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: maybe have a what is the future of eterna[1:28 PM]
Astromon: sounds good[1:28 PM]
LFP6: “Engineering Eterna’s Future” [1:29 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: something like "Eterna’s future: Switches, Site developemnt and new scientific techniques [1:29 PM]
LFP6: “Engineering the future of Biomedical Design” [1:29 PM]
whbob: @lfp6: spot on [1:29 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: I like that one[1:29 PM]
Astromon: agreed [1:29 PM]
LFP6: Do we need to insert a citizen science reference somewhere [1:30 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we can talk about how eterna is going to lead that and how Eerna 4 can help [1:30 PM]
LFP6: Engineering the future of Crowd Biomedical Design[1:30 PM]
LFP6: I think it could allow this conference to be much more thematic, that’s for sure [1:30 PM]
LFP6: As long as we play our cards right [1:30 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the future of Biomedical Design with CrowdSourcing [1:31 PM]
Astromon: using crowd sourcing for engineering Biomedical design [1:32 PM]
Astromon: fort he future of eterna [1:32 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the future of Biomedical Design with Citizen Scientists [1:32 PM]
Astromon: yes [1:32 PM]
Astromon: good one jen[1:32 PM]
whbob: “Engineering Eterna’s Future” is both broad and specific [1:32 PM]
LFP6: “Crowdsourcing the future of Biomedical Design” maybe[1:33 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering Eterna’s Future in Biomedicine[1:33 PM]
LFP6: I feel like that looses touch with the site dev and experimental stuff though[1:34 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i feel like we should mention biomedicine[1:34 PM]
LFP6: “Engineering the Future of Eterna and the Crowd in Biomedicine”? [1:35 PM]
LFP6: Engineering the future of biomedicine specifically sounds more impressive [1:36 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i feel like crowd is to short. it rubs me the wrong way maybe that is jsut me[1:36 PM]
LFP6: Dunno how to best weave this together [1:36 PM]
Astromon: i was thinking the same [1:36 PM]
whbob: how about two separate lines. one something like “engineering Eterna’s future” and the next two or three examples? [1:36 PM]
LFP6: @Jennifer you mean “the crowd” as opposed to “citizen scientists”? [1:36 PM]
Astromon: if we have crowd i feel like sourcing needs to go with it [1:36 PM]
whbob: * lines [1:36 PM]
Astromon: but i like citizen scientists better personally[1:37 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: @lfp6 i mean corwd in place of crowdsourceing or citizen scientists [1:37 PM]
LFP6: @Astromon: “The Crowd” is actually a pretty common term in relation to crowdsourcing[1:37 PM]
LFP6: I get the concern though[1:37 PM]
LFP6: Engineering the Future: Eterna, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine [1:37 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: IO like where whbob is going with it [1:37 PM]
LFP6: Less of a mouthfull at least [1:38 PM]
LFP6: But does it get the point across enough? [1:38 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: @LFP6 i like that. WE ahve the main title and then subtitiles [1:38 PM]
Astromon: i like it too<<[1:39 PM]
whbob: Eterna 4, player design, etc [1:40 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future: Eterna, Citizen Science, and riboswitches in Biomedicine [1:41 PM]
LFP6: @Whbob Do you not think what I listed was specific enough? [1:41 PM]
LFP6: I kinda like just saying “Biomedicine” because it sounds more impressive, but I’m flexible :] [1:41 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future: Eterna, Citizen Science, and riboswitches role in Biomedicine [1:41 PM]
LFP6: Eh, too specific I think[1:42 PM]
mgotrik: Engineering, crowdsourcing, and the future of biomedicine [1:43 PM]
whbob: @ lfp6: liked yours also :) [1:43 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future: Eterna, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine sound like it has teh most agreement [1:43 PM]
Astromon: Hi mgotrik, good one [1:44 PM]
whbob: I lile Eterna 4 [1:44 PM]
mgotrik: hey astro, im the new-ish post doc in the lab [1:44 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future: Eterna 4, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine [1:44 PM]
Astromon: aH ok welcome![1:44 PM]
whbob: welcome mgotrik[1:44 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: hi mgotrik[1:45 PM]
LFP6: Hey, thanks for coming![1:45 PM]
mgotrik: i am working on some experiments so will be in and out, btw [1:45 PM]
Astromon: cooL [1:46 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: we need to figure out what we agree on for the theme [1:47 PM]
whbob: does anyone else like Eterna 4? [1:47 PM]
LFP6: ? [1:48 PM]
Astromon: im sure we can fit eterna 4 in there somewhere[1:48 PM]
mgotrik: I’d just keep it simple. The important aspects are 1)new algorithms & experimental techniques (engineering), 2) community involvment & growth (crowdsourcing), and 3) solving high-impact problems in bioengineering and medicine[1:48 PM]
Astromon: The future of etrna: citizen science, engineering biomedicine, and eterna 4[1:49 PM]
mgotrik: Also, improvements on the game, but I think that falls under crowdsourcing. Don’t need to be too specific in the title [1:49 PM]
LFP6: Eterna 4 I think is also an important theme to consider, related under the first point[1:49 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: ngineering the Future: Eterna 4, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine [1:50 PM]
mgotrik: Engineering & Crowdsourcing: The Future of Biomedicine [1:50 PM]
LFP6: Hmmm [1:50 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i like hat [1:50 PM]
Astromon: sounds good[1:50 PM]
LFP6: I feel like using Engineering as a topic is a little unclear [1:51 PM]
mgotrik: I think as a theme that isn’t overly specific so would attract people who don’t know what Eterna/Eterna 4 is [1:51 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: how about wngineering switches [1:51 PM]
LFP6: Then we loose out on some of the more generic experimental/software stuff I feel like [1:51 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering Riboswitches & Crowdsourcing: The Future of Biomedicine[1:52 PM]
mgotrik: This is for, like, the name of the conference/meeting, ya? [1:52 PM]
LFP6: Yeah [1:52 PM]
LFP6: Well, the subtitle [1:52 PM]
LFP6: It’s name is “Eternacon”, but we come up with a theme[1:52 PM]
mgotrik: in which case we should be as broad as possible, and then we can have subtopics on e.g. Eterna4/Game development, Riboswitches, RNA machines & beyond, etc. [1:53 PM]
mgotrik: Or we could just call it Eternacon: Crowdsourcing (the future of/Advancements in) biomedicine [1:54 PM]
LFP6: Did you have specific issues with my original being too specific? [1:54 PM]
LFP6: (For reference: “Engineering the Future: Eterna, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine”) [1:54 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: I like that one[1:55 PM]
LFP6: Idk, I feel like it encapsulates things the best, but I can be flexible if others thing another option is best[1:55 PM]
mgotrik: I am not a big fan of referencing Eterna specifically in the title, especially if its just a subtitle of “Eternacon”. I think we want to make the title as simple and broad as possible so that many people can read it and understand what is [1:56 PM]
mgotrik: what is/will be going on at the conference [1:56 PM]
mgotrik: gtg now tho [1:56 PM]
LFP6: We do mainly target Eterna players [1:56 PM]
LFP6: Have a good one [1:56 PM]
Astromon: seeya mgotrik[1:57 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future: Switches, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine[1:57 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future: Riboswitches, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine[1:57 PM]
LFP6: Idk, maybe mentioning Eterna is redundant, I was aiming to keep Eterna 4 included but maybe it’s unnecessary [1:57 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: I get his point[1:57 PM]
LFP6: Engineering the future of Citizen Science and Biomedicine[1:57 PM]
whbob: I think it is important, it’s in our future [1:58 PM]
whbob: eterna 4 [1:58 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the future of Citizen Science and Biomedicine with Eterna [1:58 PM]
LFP6: I don’t think keeping Eterna in the theme is important, since it’s already in the title [1:59 PM]
LFP6: Eternacon: Engineering the future… [1:59 PM]
Astromon: of biomedicine[1:59 PM]
LFP6: It implies more than it states, but [1:59 PM]
LFP6: @Astro right, just didn’t feel like writing it out [2:00 PM]
Astromon: cooL [2:00 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i feel like we shoudl be including swtiches based on Rhijus input but not tied to it [2:00 PM]
LFP6: Was the intent of the ellipses [2:00 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: if no one else thinkis it should be there[2:00 PM]
Astromon: true Jen [2:00 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: That is the heart of what we are doing [2:01 PM]
LFP6: Engineering the Future of Riboswitches, Citizen Science, Biomedicine [2:01 PM]
LFP6: Engineering the Future of Riboswitches, Citizen Science, and Biomedicine [2:01 PM]
Astromon: good [2:01 PM]
whbob: riboswitches are important [2:01 PM]
LFP6: Engineering the Future of Riboswitches, Biomedicine, and Citizen Science [2:01 PM]
Astromon: maybe put etenacon rt before all that [2:02 PM]
LFP6: Right, that’s how it would usually read [2:02 PM]
LFP6: IE on the wiki, the logo would be right above [2:02 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i need to clock back into work but can monitor the page. but wont be supper active right now [2:02 PM]
Astromon: aH ok [2:02 PM]
LFP6: Can we afford to table this until next week? [2:03 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: do we want to go with LFP6’s last idea [2:03 PM]
LFP6: Or that [2:03 PM]
Astromon: I like it< [2:03 PM]
whbob: like it [2:03 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future of Riboswitches in Biomedicine, and Citizen Science[2:03 PM]
whbob: yes [2:04 PM]
Astromon: nicE [2:04 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Engineering the Future of Riboswitches in Biomedicine and Citizen Science[2:04 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: got ride of the comma [2:05 PM]
Astromon: looks great [2:05 PM]
LFP6: I’m not sure “Riboswitches in Biomedicine” is accurate?[2:05 PM]
whbob: sounds good [2:05 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: it is waht we are doing i feel [2:06 PM]
LFP6: Or are they not as separate as I might think [2:06 PM]
LFP6: WAIT [2:06 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: our riboswtiches are being used in biomedicin to diagnose conditions [2:06 PM]
LFP6: UTC_Engineering the Future of Citizen Science and Riboswitches in Biomedicine[2:06 PM]
LFP6: I feel like the point is CS and R BOTH within Bio? [2:06 PM]
LFP6: Does that make sense?[2:06 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: i like hat [2:07 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: Eternacon: Engineering the Future of Citizen Science and Riboswitches in Biomedicine [2:07 PM]
Astromon: sounds good[2:07 PM]
whbob: good [2:07 PM]
LFP6: I think it still covers experimental stuff since it’s pretty riboswitch based iirc[2:07 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: I like that LFP6. sounds like we are all in agreement on Eternacon: Engineering the Future of Citizen Science and Riboswitches in Biomedicine [2:08 PM]
LFP6: I think we’re all happy with that. How about I shuttle it off to the devs for a final stamp of approval? [2:08 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: sounds good to me [2:08 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: as long as everyone else it [2:08 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: is [2:08 PM]
whbob: ok [2:09 PM]
Astromon: agreed [2:09 PM]
LFP6: Done, I’ll update everyone once I get further info [2:09 PM]
Jennifer Pearl: great thanks LFP6 [2:09 PM]
Astromon: Thanks [2:10 PM]
whbob: thanks [2:10 PM]
